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Beldin the Sorcerer  
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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:11:12 -0400
Local: Sat, Jul 31 2010 7:11 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote in message

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No.
Two people in a row are idiots

You and Seth


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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:15:16 -0400
Local: Sat, Jul 31 2010 7:15 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote in message

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Retard (And you are one)
The hands test people's abilities to determine if someone is an idiot for
playing that way.

There have been times when someone makes an obvious idiot play, and some
reader who's around as stupid as you are defends the play.

Hell, retard, in your scramble to cover your failed memory, you pretended to
defend the play
Pointing out a hand where someone plays badly and seeing what people say is
highly educational.

You're just far too dumb to get it


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Beldin the Sorcerer  
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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:16:11 -0400
Local: Sat, Jul 31 2010 7:16 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote in message

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Jerry, you fuck nut, there's no dodge there at all.

You're a moronic piece of shit

Just own it


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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:17:46 -0400
Local: Sat, Jul 31 2010 7:17 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote in message

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> "mo_charles" <harrybal...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3te8i7x48g.ln2@recgroups.com...
>>> > Wrong

>>> If I needed to waste my time, this is where I would post the thread. But
>>> everybody knows I'm right but you.

>> jerry, just shut the fuck up you flippin' moron.

> Jeeze! What a sore loser..........

By which you mean, you're sore he proved you're a loser?


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From: "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:53:57 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 31 2010 7:53 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead
On Jul 30 2010 2:03 PM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:

> > You said that you thought Beldin lost this hand.

> No, I did not. The hand, and it's outcome, speaks for itself.

Here.  100% proof that you're full of it.

http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1516901/

I'm snipping the rest because if you're going to take 3-4 words of mine
out of context each line and reply to it, I'm not even gonna bother
reading it.

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From: "misanthropic whackjob" <acae...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:56:59 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 31 2010 8:56 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead
On Jul 30 2010 4:14 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:

I would probably make the same raise you did there with AA, AK, KK, QQ,
JJ, TT, or 99, and I wouldn't be folding on the flop to any shove as I
feel that any hand in my same range would reraise shove over my raise.

> By showing the hand this way, does it make it more or less obvious that it's
> not a good idea to reraise the amount I did with AK against some of these
> whackjobs? That it's better to flat or just shove, so some nut can't stop
> and go?

> As I did mention, if the stacks are much deeper, you can reraise smaller
> with AK, assuming you also do it with AA and KK, so that you still turn the
> shove on any flop into a losing play for the other guy, long term

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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:34:31 -0400
Local: Sat, Jul 31 2010 8:34 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"misanthropic whackjob" <acae...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

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Here's the problem with AK

There's a lot of people who'd call with any pair and push on any non-ace
flop

Leaving the guy with AQ or KQ suited who spiked on you out of the mix,
you're a 3-1 dog and priced out.

Some of them call, then check fold any ace flop
And shove the rest of the time


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From: "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:27:07 -0700
Local: Sun, Aug 1 2010 3:27 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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You still refuse to admit that bluffing and players tendencies play a part.
And I'm not the only one to point this out.

You still haven't learned to lose.

Jerry 'n Vegas


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From: "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:28:30 -0700
Local: Sun, Aug 1 2010 3:28 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

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> On Jul 30 2010 2:03 PM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:

>> > You said that you thought Beldin lost this hand.

>> No, I did not. The hand, and it's outcome, speaks for itself.

> Here.  100% proof that you're full of it.

> http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1516901/

It's 100% proof I was right.

> I'm snipping the rest because ...

It proves me right. Thanks for playing.

Jerry 'n Vegas

if you're going to take 3-4 words of mine


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From: "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:31:11 -0700
Local: Sun, Aug 1 2010 3:31 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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While Bel-Dim admits he's one that didn't understand; and still doesn't.

Jerry 'n Vegas


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XaQ Morphy  
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From: "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:06:05 -0700
Local: Sun, Aug 1 2010 5:06 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead
On Jul 31 2010 10:28 AM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:

> > Here.  100% proof that you're full of it.

> > http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1516901/

> It's 100% proof I was right.

> It proves me right. Thanks for playing.

Beldin won the hand.  You said he lost.  You're wrong.  Now fuck off you
stupid old bastard.

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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:22:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote in message

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Jerry, you're the idiot who doesn't understand
You're beyond pathetic

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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:23:55 -0400
Local: Sun, Aug 1 2010 7:23 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote in message

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No, shithead.
You're wrong as usual.
The player in question is a shithead for bluffing there.
He has no fold equity.
Therefore, you shithead, only someone as idiotic as you will bluff there
(and thus deservedly be called a shithead)

> You still haven't learned to lose.

Shithead, you have. All you do is lose

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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:19:27 -0700
Local: Sun, Aug 1 2010 9:19 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote >

> You're just far too dumb to get it

And *you* by comparison to him and to the "second shithead" therefore are
smart, and so on..

QED

Gets a little tired after a while don't you think? Why not try a new theme?


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Beldin the Sorcerer  
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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:25:37 -0400
Local: Sun, Aug 1 2010 9:25 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message

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> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote >
>> You're just far too dumb to get it

> And *you* by comparison to him and to the "second shithead" therefore are
> smart, and so on..

No, I'm just "Not dumb"

It's a wide spectrum, Dutch

I happen to BE smart, but figuring out that he's a shithead doesn't require
me to be so.


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From: Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:23:01 -0700
Local: Sun, Aug 1 2010 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: Second shithead
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:31:11 -0700, "Jerry Sturdivant"

<jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Obviously, the guy with AJ doesn't understand poker strategy.   That
>>>> doesn't make him a shithead or a retard.  It just makes him one of
>>>> many players who play poker and don't know strategy.   Yet Beldin
>>>> feels the need to constantly post hands like this while proclaiming
>>>> his opponent to be a moron or some equivalent pejorative.   Which is
>>>> consistent with the way he posts on other topics.   I believe that's
>>>> the point.

>>> Two people in a row understand!

>> No.
>> Two people in a row are idiots

>> You and Seth

Oh, really?  There was nothing in my post that was incorrect much less
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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 07:10:11 -0400
Local: Sun, Aug 1 2010 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Pepe Papon" <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message

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Yes, there was.

Stating he's a moron isn't a compulsion, it's a statement of fact.
It leads to thought because there are some people who would play the hand
that way themselves, or don't understand why it's a stupid play.
Look at Jerry right now, or Dutch more than some of the time.

When it's a more borderline situation, a lot more debate gets posted about
what the 'right' play actually should have been.

Politely posting a hand and asking for discussion doesn't tend to get people
fully engaged.

Saying someone was an idiot will get people who disagree to invest time in
the discussion.

They may not have enough knowledge to do it meaningfully, but they'll reveal
something about people who would play a hand that way


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Jerry Sturdivant  
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From: "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:21:40 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 2 2010 3:21 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Wow! What a (typical dodge) argument.

> It leads to thought because there are some people who would play
> the hand that way themselves, or don't understand why it's a stupid
> play.

You still haven't answered his statement.

> Look at Jerry right now, or Dutch more than some of the time.

You still haven't answered his statement.

> When it's a more borderline situation, a lot more debate gets posted
> about what the 'right' play actually should have been.

You still haven't answered his statement.

> Politely posting a hand and asking for discussion doesn't
> tend to get people fully engaged.

How the fuck you would know? You consider polite as, "Second shithead." And
you still haven't answered his statement.

> Saying someone was an idiot will get people who
> disagree to invest time in the discussion.

You still haven't answered his statement, much less investing any of your
own time discussing (other than bitching that he must be a Shithead) the
many hands you post.

> They may not have enough knowledge to do it meaningfully, but they'll
> reveal something about people who would play a hand that way.

And that's it. You still haven't answered his statement. Or the repeated
statement of those that bitch about you simply posting some "shithead" hand
you refuse to discuss. Or the fact you refuse to even consider the previous
player play or bluffing.

There we have it: "Two people in a row understand you're an idiot" and
you're unable to defend yourself.

Jerry 'n Vegas


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Beldin the Sorcerer  
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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:29:59 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 2 2010 3:29 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote in message

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No, just a correction.

>> It leads to thought because there are some people who would play
>> the hand that way themselves, or don't understand why it's a stupid
>> play.

> You still haven't answered his statement.

You answer statements?

I generally don't.
I often answer questions. I correct misstatements.

>> Look at Jerry right now, or Dutch more than some of the time.

> You still haven't answered his statement.

See above, idiot boy

>> When it's a more borderline situation, a lot more debate gets posted
>> about what the 'right' play actually should have been.

> You still haven't answered his statement.

Jerry, how retarded are you?
Have you learned what fold equity is yet?

>> Politely posting a hand and asking for discussion doesn't
>> tend to get people fully engaged.

> How the fuck you would know? You consider polite as, "Second shithead."
> And you still haven't answered his statement.

Jerry, how long you had your head up your ass?

Read this group. Pay attention to the responses to polite hand history
comments

>> Saying someone was an idiot will get people who
>> disagree to invest time in the discussion.

> You still haven't answered his statement, much less investing any of your
> own time discussing (other than bitching that he must be a Shithead) the
> many hands you post.

Jerry, how does one answer a statement?

You can answer a question.
You can correct a misstatement

How do you answer a statement?

>> They may not have enough knowledge to do it meaningfully, but they'll
>> reveal something about people who would play a hand that way.

> And that's it. You still haven't answered his statement. Or the repeated
> statement of those that bitch about you simply posting some "shithead"
> hand you refuse to discuss. Or the fact you refuse to even consider the
> previous player play or bluffing.

Jerry, must you prove yourself a hopeless retard all the time?

Someone who bluffs with zero fold equity is an idiot

You're a hopeless, pathetic, moronic old boob


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Jerry Sturdivant  
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From: "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 09:53:56 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 2 2010 4:53 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Where you say you don't? Where you say you only make corrections? Where you
say you generally don't?

You're trying to fight a battle of wits and you're unarmed, kid. Like we've
all been telling you, you've got to learn to lose.

Jerry 'n Vegas


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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 13:07:28 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 2 2010 5:07 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote in message

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Jerry, you piece of shit, you got your ass handed to you so many times, your
cheeks hand a hand permanently pressed into them

You're an imbecile

accept your stupidity


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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 21:13:08 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 2 2010 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
> news:i3242d$j1s$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote >
>>> You're just far too dumb to get it

>> And *you* by comparison to him and to the "second shithead" therefore are
>> smart, and so on..

> No, I'm just "Not dumb"

> It's a wide spectrum, Dutch

> I happen to BE smart, but figuring out that he's a shithead doesn't
> require me to be so.

Remind me again why anyone should care that you have spotted yet another of
the hundreds of thousands of weak poker players everyone here sees every
day?

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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 01:20:04 -0400
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Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message

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Because some idiots (Jerry) defend his play


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From: "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:17:12 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 3 2010 7:17 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead

"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:i35kie$4bg$1@news.eternal-september.org...

I love joining the others in catching Bel-Dim in yet, another, lie.

So show us where I defended his play.

     (Stand by for more knee-jerking,
      homoerotic, back-tracking by our
      resident fool).

Jerry 'n Vegas


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Newsgroups: rec.gambling.poker
From: phlash74 <phlas...@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:22:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 3 2010 7:22 am
Subject: Re: Second shithead
On Aug 2, 12:17 pm, "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/msg/56dd4fddb44e1f2...

Oh, and

www.shutupidiot.info

Michael
U.S. American


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